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Kagura :3 by Trudetski Kagura :3 by Trudetski
Download for 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1600x1200, (with and without shading) and reference.

Kagura taken from the Azumanga Daioh manga. I'm not totally sure if the shading is even necessary/appropriate where I put it. There were lines all over the place on the original image and I wasn't sure which ones I should emphasize in the trace so I just picked the darkest areas. Not sure if it looks better with or without them though. Oh well.
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Trudetski Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2010
Hey thanks, I appreciate it!
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Chibi-Ninja-Pup Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2010
That's adorable!

I LOVE how straight and smooth you made the lines! :D
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BeefyDiab0lique Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Eheh...SO CUTE!She always is
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FelixKilldeer Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2008
Thanks for all the advice :)

I'm not sure what version of Inkscape I'm using, but there's no paint bucket tool. I downloaded it last spring, though, so it's probably pretty old.
What I'm doing now is, as you said, having the lines be shapes, and setting the stroke color to be the same as the fill color.

Thanks again!
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Trudetski Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2008
To remove the black outline off your shadows go in the menu to: Object>Fill and Stroke>Stroke tab. Under the stroke tab click on the large X on the left and that will disable the stroke off the selected path.

If you're using the newest version of Inkscape (0.46), which I assume you are, you've probably been filling things in with the paint bucket tool. This is fine provided you are trying to fill a piece of closed geometry. Since it's not you should go under that same Object>Fill and Stroke menu but this time go under Fill. Here you can pick whatever color you're looking for and it will fill the geometry even if it isn't closed.

I suspect, based on you're description, that what you're doing is directly drawing a line over the lines and then just using the fill tool on the new geometry. While this does work you will generally end out with product that just looks off somehow due to all the lines being the same width. What I would recommend doing is thinking of the lines as shapes themselves that are solid black. This allows you greater flexibility in line width and also allows you to do considerably more complex things with both coloring and shading. I've included an SVG file on my wallpaper template "The Colonel" [link]

In it I split everything up between the lines, colors, and shadows. For some reason I put the eye brow lines as well as the eye outlines on their own layers, don't remember why. Regardless, this file should be a good place to start if you are just looking for how you might actually lay things out. If you need any other help I'm always glad to help or you can find tutorials on the AVA's page, I think. [link]
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FelixKilldeer Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2008
I was doing some vectoring in Inkscape tonight, and I could get the lineart okay, but I couldn't really find a way to effectively color it in Inkscape... I ended up doing it in The GIMP, and so my shadows look spectacularly crappy, as I had to do them by hand to avoid the black outline Inkscape leaves... I was wondering how you get around this? When I tried filling object with Inkscape one a group, say, the hair, it would work if the group was a closed object with no bits sticking out, but if not, it wouldn't work... And then when I went to do the face, I had to redo all the lines where the hair and face met (Though, in hindsight, I probably could have ungrouped those lines from the hair and grouped them into the face)... Are you doing the lineart itself as an object, and then filling it black?

Sorry for the long comment, but... If you have time to read it and answer, I'd be truly grateful ^^;
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FelixKilldeer Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2008
Yeah... But maybe I'll overcome my dislike of it at some point XD
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Trudetski Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2008
That is a problem isn't it? haha
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FelixKilldeer Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2008
Haha, well, I do have time... I just hate drawing on the computer XD
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Trudetski Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2008
Yeah it's pretty fun if you've got the time to do it.
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FelixKilldeer Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2008
Yeah, I think the individual shaded areas look out of place.

Haha, looking through your gallery makes me want to do vectors... Maybe I should finally get around to learning how to use Inkscape XD
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Trudetski Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2008
Thanks
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cartoonlion Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow...I love it...^.^
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Trudetski Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2007
Yes, I think I made/used this during a time where I was working on a major CS project I had procrastinated on. I've found that having a happy wallpaper is really nice whenever things are stressful. Glad you like it. :)
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silentuk Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2007
I really like this makes me feel warm inside whenever i see it :)
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Trudetski Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2007
Most definitely. :)
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wurfl Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2007
Lol i really cant picture yakuza osaka but i can tell it would be dam funny.
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Trudetski Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2007
Haha don't know what to tell you. It seems that the localization teams prefer the southern accent vs the New York accent. It kind of bothers me too, somehow it just doesn't feel right for a very obviously Japanese person to sound like a southern American. Hell, I've been around southern accents for most of my life (I actually spent most of it in Texas) and it bothers me. Although...I really think a New York accent would sound simply outrageous coming out of a character like Osaka. Maybe if she was a Yakuza or something...haha. That's ok though because, like you said, you can always just run it in Japanese with subs and then everyone sounds appropriate. Usually, anyway.
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wurfl Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2007
i know that but still i wish shed just speak the new york accent or somthing the southern accent just gets on my nerves.
and ive only read love hina so that sucks cause kitsune was my fave =(
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Trudetski Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2007
She sounds like she is southern because, in Japanese she sounds southern (to the Japanese, maybe)! She speaks in a Kansai dialect which sounds markedly different than the "typical" Japanese accent. There is some dispute to this, however, because in the manga the decided to give her the more New York style accent. ADV chose the southern style for the anime dub because it "shares the business-oriented attitude with Osaka as well as the country image that color both the Southern and Osaka accents."

Actually, if you watch Love Hina in English Kitsune has a similar accent for the same reason. They do the same thing in the Excel Saga anime for Daimaru Sumiyoshi, although he doesn't speak audibly his written text is in the Kansai style.
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wurfl Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2007
i hate the english dub on osaka! why does she sound like shes from texas!!
i watch it in japanese with english sub titles cause i cant stand the texas accent.
but man just how she spaces out and then goes on some awsome rant like about bruce lee and stuff XD
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Trudetski Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2007
I just recently re-watched Azumanga and it was so much funnier because we have a roommate now with a VERY similar manner of speaking to the dub Osaka. When he sat down and said "huh...she talks...like a southerner" we could barely contain ourselves. Ah good times, good times.
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wurfl Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2007
i just bought the box set =D
osaka and tomo make me laugh so hard =D
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Trudetski Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2007
Yeah the more I look at it the stranger I think it is. I guess I'll just put the non-shaded versions in the zip. BTW thanks for the fav!
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AHG-artist Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2007
Yarr! I hearts me some Kagura. ^^

Hmm. I was thinking that the couple of shaded parts on the outside of the jacket might not have been necessary, but I could be completely wrong. Naaaaice work none-the-less.

Here's a donut for you: :donut:
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